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This is a place to ask any questions related to Personal Science wiki.

Open Questions[edit | edit source]

wanted pages[edit | edit source]

many wanted pages are conferences https://quantifiedself.com/portfolio/?show=events

Should information from the community meeting notes be transferred to wiki?[edit | edit source]

There may be lots and lots of information but the people offering it were maybe not doing it wiht the intent to have it added to a wiki? - User:DG

I think the limitation of participants in the calls not having the intention of it ending up on the Wiki is one thing that's really important. The other thing is also that it's not easy to convert the meeting notes into really useful pages. That's why User:Madprime, User:katoss and I so far went with the compromise-solution of tagging the tools/topics/projects that were discussed in a given meeting to cross-link to the Google Doc, but I'd say how we handle this remains open for discussion. - Gedankenstuecke (talk) 16:55, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Late follow-up but I guess I'd say ... if the notes bring attention to information or ideas that is otherwise publicly available then it seems fine to add stuff about those topics, based on the public information available elsewhere. But I don't think the notes should be used as a primary source: it's unplanned informal discussion, and the notes may also have errors and gaps. Madprime (talk) 19:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Resolved Questions[edit | edit source]

Cloning the wiki?[edit | edit source]

how do I clone the wiki? I need to do it correctly or I could violate Attribution DG (talk)

Madprime do you have an answer for this? Katoss (talk) 14:46, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

DG There is no "easy" export tool baked into mediawiki, but there are some instructions online on how to go about automating the process: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Exporting_all_the_files_of_a_wiki

It might be that no standard tool exists because people end up having different preferences on "what" they want to export (what they want to do). Also, note that licensing issues can vary according to content. While a lot of content is CC-BY-SA by default, there can be material (e.g. uploaded images) with other licensing, e.g. non-free material that's used as "fair use" in this wiki but may be a copyright violation if used elsewhere.

I AM NOT A LAWYER AND THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE: Regarding "attribution" requirements, I think it can be tricky to handle (highly visible attribution can disrupt re-use!). Sometimes people try to handle attribution via a link (e.g. on an imported file) to a source URL, and the source URL contains (or links to) information about authorship. If in doubt, you might share your plan and see whether others think it's met the requirement. :)

Madprime (talk) 19:36, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

what about just raw "BackupsThere are daily VM backups in Digital Ocean. Should there be other backups? - Katoss" Could you go into detail about "(highly visible attribution can disrupt re-use!)." I was worried the requirement was like on github with the littelest change having attribution. DG (talk)

There is Special:Export, which provides XML dumps of the full revision history of specific pages and/or categories. This might work for an export of the information you are looking for! - Gedankenstuecke (talk) 19:10, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Works great! DG (talk)

does mediawiki allow upvoting?[edit | edit source]

I want to upvote articles and contributions reflexively from all the time i spent on reddit. Is there any way to this a feature on this wiki? DG (talk) 21:41, 10 March 2022 - User:DG

I don't think there's an easy way to do this with Mediawiki, or at least I only found extensions for comments on talk pages that would allow this. Given that Wikis typically have a slower turn-around for content, while also being dynamically generated it might not be the best solution (e.g. you upvote a page at time-point A but after a number of changes to the page it's not really representing what you liked anymore). I think Wikipedia solves this by 'flagging' articles after a discussion, e.g. when you look at the Genetics article talk page on Wikipedia it shows up as a featured article, and rated on a quality scale etc. In the long-run a similar solution might be good here too, but probably overkill in the short-term. - Gedankenstuecke (talk) 16:52, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

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 == Open Questions ==
+=== wanted pages ===
+many wanted pages are conferences
+https://quantifiedself.com/portfolio/?show=events
+=== Should information from the community meeting notes be transferred to wiki? ===
+There may be lots and lots of information but the people offering it were maybe not doing it wiht the intent to have it added to a wiki? - [[User:DG]]
+: I think the limitation of participants in the calls not having the intention of it ending up on the Wiki is one thing that's really important. The other thing is also that it's not easy to convert the meeting notes into really useful pages. That's why [[User:Madprime]], [[User:katoss]] and I so far went with the ''compromise''-solution of tagging the tools/topics/projects that were discussed in a given meeting to cross-link to the Google Doc, but I'd say how we handle this remains open for discussion. - [[User:Gedankenstuecke|Gedankenstuecke]] ([[User talk:Gedankenstuecke|talk]]) 16:55, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
+:: Late follow-up but I guess I'd say ... if the notes bring attention to information or ideas that is otherwise publicly available then it seems fine to add stuff about those topics, based on the public information available elsewhere. But I don't think the notes should be used as a primary source: it's unplanned informal discussion, and the notes may also have errors and gaps. [[User:Madprime|Madprime]] ([[User talk:Madprime|talk]]) 19:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
+== Resolved Questions ==
 === Cloning the wiki? ===
 how do I clone the wiki? I need to do it correctly or I could violate Attribution [[User:DG|DG]] ([[User talk:DG|talk]])
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 ::: Works great! [[User:DG|DG]] ([[User talk:DG|talk]])
-=== Experiment VS Observational studies   ===
+=== does mediawiki allow upvoting? ===
-Experimenting is to formally state spell out and control for as many variables as you can. Science.  Because user makes sure to change nothing else during the experiment many issues with analyzing time based relations do no happen. Consequently linear regression, ttest, causal analysis and breakpoint detection work. Maybe some complications in establishing baseline. This needs a page combining (or two and not combining) experimental design and the techniques above.
+I want to upvote articles and contributions reflexively from all the time i spent on reddit. Is there any way to this a feature on this wiki? [[User:DG|DG]] ([[User talk:DG|talk]]) 21:41, 10 March 2022 - [[User:DG]]
-Second type is observational study. Just monitoring all the variables without a specific structure or interventions. This is what most health trackers do and is useful for many reasons. Also may remove placebo and stress or nervousness effect from a more formal experiment. Unfortunately this is where all those issues I mentioned in [[finding]] and many more in the links all are relevant.
-Maybe this comparison may need to be a page too.
-=== add keywords and search terms to page ===
-Pages may be misnamed and require constant redirecting. When someone searches for the page either here in the wiki or on google they may use very different terms than writer. I think each page should have a synonym and unique terms section.
-== Resolved Questions ==
+: I don't think there's an easy way to do this with Mediawiki, or at least I only found extensions for comments on talk pages that would allow this. Given that Wikis typically have a slower turn-around for content, while also being dynamically generated it might not be the best solution (e.g. you upvote a page at time-point A but after a number of changes to the page it's not really representing what you liked anymore). I think Wikipedia solves this by 'flagging' articles after a discussion, e.g. when you look at the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Genetics Genetics] article talk page on Wikipedia it shows up as a ''featured article'', and ''rated on a quality scale'' etc. In the long-run a similar solution might be good here too, but probably overkill in the short-term. - [[User:Gedankenstuecke|Gedankenstuecke]] ([[User talk:Gedankenstuecke|talk]]) 16:52, 21 March 2022 (UTC)