Talk:Flash Cards as Cognitive Test

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don't forget following tests: focus distraction and cognitive endurance

Cognitive impairment that can be fixed or avoided in future is very useful to QS. Temporary cognitive impairment, caused by such things as drugs or sleep deprivation or concussions, can be detected with continuous testing of long-term memory.

Lots of papers show effect of ageing on performance on tests similar to Anki. Some papers show that different people 'age' at different rates though I have not yet found what user could change to ameliorate problem. Some in Life extension longevity movement think that getting markers to younger levels is equivalent to becoming younger. Maybe interventions could also be tested with Anki?

Studies have been run specifically to get greater granularity than a few tests every 5 years.

So there are two types of ways cognitive testing could help maintain health of user; General health and cognitive health. General health like being sick with flu affecting many markers and this one also. But obviously the other markers are probably cheaper and there are probably enough of them. Still knowing when in the flu to bother trying to work would be nice.

hey already did this in my analysis[edit | edit source]

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some thoughts[edit | edit source]

the word learning breaks down into three outcomes; remembering including cues at correct time and fluency, skill at a task like typing, and Understanding. Anki is for remembering. Feel like there should be an 'intuition' level of learning like when algebra is so well understood that it is automatically used in every day life turning understanding and knowledge into a skill like typing?

bjork bjork new theory of disuse 1992[edit | edit source]

regression to old habits memories when both old and new memories are disused

probably related to "new items are fit into memory" and "the whole structure changes". I imagine interlocking trees and so does Wozniak I think.

"At the shortest (zero s) delay, there is a monotonic recency effect for all three species; at the longest delay (10 s for pigeons, 30 s for monkeys, 100 s for humans), there is a monotonic primacy effect for all three species; and at intermediate delays, the functions are U-shaped for all three species. In addition to that change of pattern, there is an absolute increase in performance on the first memory-set item from the shortest to the longest probe delay." Does this apply to anki though? Was this experiment performed many times on the same pigeons or was the effect of memory just the novelty of the experience? If it isn't novelty effect then the effect on anki would be a sort of ideal limit of cards per session. or better to learn new cards first or last. I expect to see this in the data.

I suspect tree structure and items are fit into memory could be tested too at the same time as interference with similarity in rare words between cards.


mentions other studies with estimates of maximal storage capacity which is huge

testing increases remembering (testing effect) more difficult the better it is for recall later (just a few lines on this)


interference or as they call it "impairing recall of other items" and "retrieval competition" and recency-to-primacy changes with delay

Like in 20 rules for knowledge by Wozniak, forgetting is for information retrieval efficiency. Why remember all your home addresses when you need to remember the current one. (paraphrase)

memory strength into 2 storage and retrieval

supposedly storage strength never declines but only retrieval does If i understand htis correctly this is true some times; when I need a reminder of my vocab and then I am in a state that allows me to easily remember it but sometimes my state of memory slips very much and in fact I forget.

"other way to characterize these assumptions is to say that the gain and loss or" retrieval strength are both negatively accelerated, and that storage strength acts to enhance the gain and retard the loss of retrieval strength." so yeah

Is it possible to drastically increase cue, like foreign vocab has pictures if there are more pictures will there be more recall? Or "differentiation"? mulitple cards with differernt cues affect it? This could also be tested using similar card feature.


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Other things that maybe later very interesting[edit | edit source]

Labaronne, M., Jarjat, G. and Plancher, G. (2023) 'Attentional Refreshing in the Absence of Long-Term Memory Content: Role of Short-Term and Long-Term Consolidation', Journal of Cognition, 6(1), NA, available: [accessed 03 Aug 2023].

"Additionally, we investigated the effect of WM on LTM, and consistently observed that cognitive load did not affect delayed recall, contrary to previous literature. Conversely, added time for short-term consolidation and repeating items multiple times both improved short-term and long-term memory performance." refressing is mechanism to keep stuff from falling out of working memory while attentional refreshing means rethinking about it? or rereading? its alot. Lots of interesting info to consider later.


Dias, Gisele Pereira, et al. "Intermittent fasting enhances long-term memory consolidation, adult hippocampal neurogenesis, and expression of longevity gene Klotho." Molecular Psychiatry, vol. 26, no. 11, Nov. 2021, pp. 6365+.

IN MICE still interesting


Luckey, A.M., McLeod, L.S., Huang, Y., Mohan, A. and Vanneste, S. (2023) 'Making memories last using the peripheral effect of direct current stimulation', eLife, 12, NA, available: link.gale.com/apps/doc/A751863035/ ----- [accessed 08 Aug 2023].

Word association task, remember after week, like mid-term cued recall but with much stronger cue, to show memory consolidation.

funny not actualy true[edit | edit source]

I think? www.smbc-comics.com/comic/metrics

from notebooks, add to main or at least remove[edit | edit source]

cognitive testing said to have too much noise of the kind that may have a pattern in it even but monitoring en mass like this will produce enough data to easily eliminate real noise and there are sever effects that a person under them simply will not notice that need the outside monitoring that this will provide.

maybe non.. anyway proving that there are non random noise patterns is quite easy. the distances will detect it all

when user dumber they do not notice!!! cog is almost as not normally sensible as heart rate

sleep just after learning helps learn steven jonas anki

fluency heuristic:bulevich 2006 recognition accuracy and response time!! domanin knowledge working memory and age on cognitive performance hambrick 2002: domain knowledge and working memory helped rememebr chess positions pleople can detect what they think will be hard fairl correctly: Zechmeister 1980 stark 2013: discriminate between similar pictures related to age and cognitive impairment delaney 2010 meta analysis of spaced moody 2006 on learning disable students flashcard drills relate to academic acheivement in Read write arithemtic

Thank you Eric[edit | edit source]

for suggesting cognitive endurance.