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This is a place to put your ideas and read about ideas for improving this wiki. You can discuss by adding your comments to existing topics or start a new one by creating a new top level heading. You can also check the [[PersonalScienceWiki:Open Issues]] page to see which topics are already on our to-do list. | This is a place to put your ideas and read about ideas for improving this wiki. You can discuss by adding your comments to existing topics or start a new one by creating a new top level heading. You can also check the [[PersonalScienceWiki:Open Issues]] page to see which topics are already on our to-do list. | ||
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| + | '''CK wiki:''' [[User:Gedankenstuecke]] found this [https://ck-wissen.de/ckwiki/index.php?title=Hauptseite wiki on Cluster Headaches]. It is a community/patient-led project. Maybe we can learn something from their wiki? - [[User:Katoss|Katoss]] ([[User talk:Katoss|talk]]) 15:19, 17 November 2021 (UTC) | ||
| − | = | + | '''Design for diversity:''' Diversity in [https://papyrus.bib.umontreal.ca/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1866/24878/Chapter%2012_Free%20and%20Open%20Source%20Software.pdf?sequence=1 open source] and [https://lucris.lub.lu.se/ws/portalfiles/portal/94288236/Chapter_13_Wikipedia_and_Wikis.pdf wiki] communities is often an issue. How much should we have an eye on diversity at this stage? How can we implement this? - [[User:Katoss|Katoss]] ([[User talk:Katoss|talk]]) 16:45, 17 November 2021 (UTC) ([https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d13hyfitTzJwAF0yhgPn1XQKeHmUUhlEAUwOq0WyHGo/edit Source]) |
| − | + | ==Bot use?== | |
Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots uses lots of bots] to sign comments, revert vandalism, or even to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsjbot write articles]. Should be consider using bots? Which bots could be useful for us? - [[User:Katoss|Katoss]] ([[User talk:Katoss|talk]]) 16:45, 17 November 2021 (UTC) ([https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d13hyfitTzJwAF0yhgPn1XQKeHmUUhlEAUwOq0WyHGo/edit Source]) | Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots uses lots of bots] to sign comments, revert vandalism, or even to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsjbot write articles]. Should be consider using bots? Which bots could be useful for us? - [[User:Katoss|Katoss]] ([[User talk:Katoss|talk]]) 16:45, 17 November 2021 (UTC) ([https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d13hyfitTzJwAF0yhgPn1XQKeHmUUhlEAUwOq0WyHGo/edit Source]) | ||
| − | + | ==Cornerstones of Wikipedia vs Personal Science Wiki== | |
How is this wiki different from Wikipedia, e.g. with regards to WP's cornerstones? (see p.21f of [https://lucris.lub.lu.se/ws/portalfiles/portal/94288236/Chapter_13_Wikipedia_and_Wikis.pdf this article] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars WP's five pillars]). - [[User:Katoss|Katoss]] ([[User talk:Katoss|talk]]) 16:45, 17 November 2021 (UTC) ([https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d13hyfitTzJwAF0yhgPn1XQKeHmUUhlEAUwOq0WyHGo/edit Source]) | How is this wiki different from Wikipedia, e.g. with regards to WP's cornerstones? (see p.21f of [https://lucris.lub.lu.se/ws/portalfiles/portal/94288236/Chapter_13_Wikipedia_and_Wikis.pdf this article] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars WP's five pillars]). - [[User:Katoss|Katoss]] ([[User talk:Katoss|talk]]) 16:45, 17 November 2021 (UTC) ([https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d13hyfitTzJwAF0yhgPn1XQKeHmUUhlEAUwOq0WyHGo/edit Source]) | ||
: Wikipedia vs Personal Science Wiki : notability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iconography_of_correlations lots of writings on how to and advice deleted - [[User:DG]] | : Wikipedia vs Personal Science Wiki : notability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iconography_of_correlations lots of writings on how to and advice deleted - [[User:DG]] | ||
| − | + | ==How to best document tacit/procedural knowledge?== | |
How to use this wiki best to help self researchers learn from the experience of others? - [[User:Katoss|Katoss]] ([[User talk:Katoss|talk]]) 16:45, 17 November 2021 (UTC) ([https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d13hyfitTzJwAF0yhgPn1XQKeHmUUhlEAUwOq0WyHGo/edit Source]) | How to use this wiki best to help self researchers learn from the experience of others? - [[User:Katoss|Katoss]] ([[User talk:Katoss|talk]]) 16:45, 17 November 2021 (UTC) ([https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d13hyfitTzJwAF0yhgPn1XQKeHmUUhlEAUwOq0WyHGo/edit Source]) | ||
: What I'm finding hard (but very interesting at the same time) is for example to "extract" enough concrete details about [[Seth Roberts]] great diversity and number of self-experimentation just by reading one paper: Roberts, S. (2004). [https://escholarship.org/uc/item/2xc2h866 Self-experimentation as a source of new ideas: Ten examples about sleep, mood, health, and weight]. ''Behavioral and brain sciences'', 27(2), 227-262. But on the one hand I wonder if this type of sources (or blogs, videos, etc) are precisely in need of closer look and more hands to summarise the basics and reflect them properly as useful knowledge (just starting points) for further exploration by anyone interested in the same questions or methods, etc. Maybe some sort of reading club session (of this concrete source or similar) could be also useful to collaboratively extract and reflect afterwards the essential learning, tools, hacks, etc. directly on the wiki? [[User:Esenabre|Esenabre]] ([[User talk:Esenabre|talk]]) 16:55, 2 December 2021 (UTC) | : What I'm finding hard (but very interesting at the same time) is for example to "extract" enough concrete details about [[Seth Roberts]] great diversity and number of self-experimentation just by reading one paper: Roberts, S. (2004). [https://escholarship.org/uc/item/2xc2h866 Self-experimentation as a source of new ideas: Ten examples about sleep, mood, health, and weight]. ''Behavioral and brain sciences'', 27(2), 227-262. But on the one hand I wonder if this type of sources (or blogs, videos, etc) are precisely in need of closer look and more hands to summarise the basics and reflect them properly as useful knowledge (just starting points) for further exploration by anyone interested in the same questions or methods, etc. Maybe some sort of reading club session (of this concrete source or similar) could be also useful to collaboratively extract and reflect afterwards the essential learning, tools, hacks, etc. directly on the wiki? [[User:Esenabre|Esenabre]] ([[User talk:Esenabre|talk]]) 16:55, 2 December 2021 (UTC) | ||
| − | + | == Should we have a category like "processes"/"how to's"? == | |
A request that often appears is to explain "how to" do things, like calibrating blood glucose trackers, or exporting data from fitbit. This could be part of "topics" or "projects" at the moment, but might become a dedicated (sub)category at some point. Publishing negative results should also be encouraged ("how not to"/"things that didn't work") - [[User:Katoss|Katoss]] ([[User talk:Katoss|talk]]) 11:19, 18 November 2021 (UTC) ([https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p61Zp48JXYxc5tB2q7WR51ZQ8_TS0s8-LDtvVSC88QA/edit#heading=h.revlivpbh366 Source]) | A request that often appears is to explain "how to" do things, like calibrating blood glucose trackers, or exporting data from fitbit. This could be part of "topics" or "projects" at the moment, but might become a dedicated (sub)category at some point. Publishing negative results should also be encouraged ("how not to"/"things that didn't work") - [[User:Katoss|Katoss]] ([[User talk:Katoss|talk]]) 11:19, 18 November 2021 (UTC) ([https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p61Zp48JXYxc5tB2q7WR51ZQ8_TS0s8-LDtvVSC88QA/edit#heading=h.revlivpbh366 Source]) | ||
| − | + | == Visual Editor not everywhere == | |
The visual editor seems to only be enabled for some name spaces. E.g. it's absent on the talk pages and in name spaces such as this one (<code>PersonalScienceWiki</code>). I think if possible we should enable this for these spaces too or is there a reason to not do so? - [[User:Gedankenstuecke|Gedankenstuecke]] ([[User talk:Gedankenstuecke|talk]]) 14:19, 4 March 2022 (UTC) | The visual editor seems to only be enabled for some name spaces. E.g. it's absent on the talk pages and in name spaces such as this one (<code>PersonalScienceWiki</code>). I think if possible we should enable this for these spaces too or is there a reason to not do so? - [[User:Gedankenstuecke|Gedankenstuecke]] ([[User talk:Gedankenstuecke|talk]]) 14:19, 4 March 2022 (UTC) | ||
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: I just checked the VisualEditor manual and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor#Changing_active_namespaces|this seems to be the instruction on how to set it up] for additional namespaces. I think having it for the Help, Talk & PersonalScienceWiki would be great! - [[User:Gedankenstuecke|Gedankenstuecke]] ([[User talk:Gedankenstuecke|talk]]) 15:36, 7 March 2022 (UTC) | : I just checked the VisualEditor manual and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor#Changing_active_namespaces|this seems to be the instruction on how to set it up] for additional namespaces. I think having it for the Help, Talk & PersonalScienceWiki would be great! - [[User:Gedankenstuecke|Gedankenstuecke]] ([[User talk:Gedankenstuecke|talk]]) 15:36, 7 March 2022 (UTC) | ||
| − | + | == Topics related to topics == | |
We got rid of circular, semantic linking as it was hard to understand the dependencies of how information shows up. I feel for topics it could still be relevant and useful to have 'topics related to this topic'. Where I noticed this was when making the [[Statistical testing]] page, where I'd have loved to have the [[Is it chance? Use a T-Test to identify how likely an intervention worked|t-test page]] linked back. Do we think this might be useful and doable? - [[User:Gedankenstuecke|Gedankenstuecke]] ([[User talk:Gedankenstuecke|talk]]) 10:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC) | We got rid of circular, semantic linking as it was hard to understand the dependencies of how information shows up. I feel for topics it could still be relevant and useful to have 'topics related to this topic'. Where I noticed this was when making the [[Statistical testing]] page, where I'd have loved to have the [[Is it chance? Use a T-Test to identify how likely an intervention worked|t-test page]] linked back. Do we think this might be useful and doable? - [[User:Gedankenstuecke|Gedankenstuecke]] ([[User talk:Gedankenstuecke|talk]]) 10:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC) | ||
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== Organization of this talk page == | == Organization of this talk page == | ||
"Talk" pages have an "Add topic" tab for adding new topics for discussion and I'm using it to add this topic!). This page has content that was formerly in a non-talk page... I think it should probably be re-organized to be consistent with standard "Talk page" headings. (I'm likely to do this myself after posting this new topic.) - [[User:Madprime|Madprime]] ([[User talk:Madprime|talk]]) 18:33, 9 March 2022 (UTC) | "Talk" pages have an "Add topic" tab for adding new topics for discussion and I'm using it to add this topic!). This page has content that was formerly in a non-talk page... I think it should probably be re-organized to be consistent with standard "Talk page" headings. (I'm likely to do this myself after posting this new topic.) - [[User:Madprime|Madprime]] ([[User talk:Madprime|talk]]) 18:33, 9 March 2022 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :Okay, that's done now with this edit! - [[User:Madprime|Madprime]] ([[User talk:Madprime|talk]]) 18:37, 9 March 2022 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 18:37, 9 March 2022
This is a place to put your ideas and read about ideas for improving this wiki. You can discuss by adding your comments to existing topics or start a new one by creating a new top level heading. You can also check the PersonalScienceWiki:Open Issues page to see which topics are already on our to-do list.
Resources
CK wiki: User:Gedankenstuecke found this wiki on Cluster Headaches. It is a community/patient-led project. Maybe we can learn something from their wiki? - Katoss (talk) 15:19, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Design for diversity: Diversity in open source and wiki communities is often an issue. How much should we have an eye on diversity at this stage? How can we implement this? - Katoss (talk) 16:45, 17 November 2021 (UTC) (Source)
Bot use?
Wikipedia uses lots of bots to sign comments, revert vandalism, or even to write articles. Should be consider using bots? Which bots could be useful for us? - Katoss (talk) 16:45, 17 November 2021 (UTC) (Source)
Cornerstones of Wikipedia vs Personal Science Wiki
How is this wiki different from Wikipedia, e.g. with regards to WP's cornerstones? (see p.21f of this article and WP's five pillars). - Katoss (talk) 16:45, 17 November 2021 (UTC) (Source)
- Wikipedia vs Personal Science Wiki : notability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iconography_of_correlations lots of writings on how to and advice deleted - User:DG
How to best document tacit/procedural knowledge?
How to use this wiki best to help self researchers learn from the experience of others? - Katoss (talk) 16:45, 17 November 2021 (UTC) (Source)
- What I'm finding hard (but very interesting at the same time) is for example to "extract" enough concrete details about Seth Roberts great diversity and number of self-experimentation just by reading one paper: Roberts, S. (2004). Self-experimentation as a source of new ideas: Ten examples about sleep, mood, health, and weight. Behavioral and brain sciences, 27(2), 227-262. But on the one hand I wonder if this type of sources (or blogs, videos, etc) are precisely in need of closer look and more hands to summarise the basics and reflect them properly as useful knowledge (just starting points) for further exploration by anyone interested in the same questions or methods, etc. Maybe some sort of reading club session (of this concrete source or similar) could be also useful to collaboratively extract and reflect afterwards the essential learning, tools, hacks, etc. directly on the wiki? Esenabre (talk) 16:55, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Should we have a category like "processes"/"how to's"?
A request that often appears is to explain "how to" do things, like calibrating blood glucose trackers, or exporting data from fitbit. This could be part of "topics" or "projects" at the moment, but might become a dedicated (sub)category at some point. Publishing negative results should also be encouraged ("how not to"/"things that didn't work") - Katoss (talk) 11:19, 18 November 2021 (UTC) (Source)
Visual Editor not everywhere
The visual editor seems to only be enabled for some name spaces. E.g. it's absent on the talk pages and in name spaces such as this one (PersonalScienceWiki). I think if possible we should enable this for these spaces too or is there a reason to not do so? - Gedankenstuecke (talk) 14:19, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- I just checked the VisualEditor manual and seems to be the instruction on how to set it up for additional namespaces. I think having it for the Help, Talk & PersonalScienceWiki would be great! - Gedankenstuecke (talk) 15:36, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
We got rid of circular, semantic linking as it was hard to understand the dependencies of how information shows up. I feel for topics it could still be relevant and useful to have 'topics related to this topic'. Where I noticed this was when making the Statistical testing page, where I'd have loved to have the t-test page linked back. Do we think this might be useful and doable? - Gedankenstuecke (talk) 10:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Organization of this talk page
"Talk" pages have an "Add topic" tab for adding new topics for discussion and I'm using it to add this topic!). This page has content that was formerly in a non-talk page... I think it should probably be re-organized to be consistent with standard "Talk page" headings. (I'm likely to do this myself after posting this new topic.) - Madprime (talk) 18:33, 9 March 2022 (UTC)